Post by 2adanieltan08 on Apr 30, 2008 3:38:36 GMT -5
What about the masses?
Don't you all think that masses' support for the few main characters is actually a very important factor in determining their outcome?
Ralph - he does have the masses' vote for leader as he looks matured and has a sense of leadership , but gradually loses his power over the boys as Jack usurps his "throne" , making him lose support from the other boys and lose his position as leader.
Jack - he gains the masses' attention and support as he focuses on the fun things the masses can do on the island - hunting , swimming , slacking and the like - , and also challenges Ralph's authority by forming a tribe on his own , and threatens other boys to join. However, Jack's "success" in the novel mainly depends on the masses' support. All his plans and activities like hunting and forming a new tribe needed a huge amount of support form the other boys , and if he did not have that kind of support , he would not have even the power to speak up to Ralph.
Simon - He is the person most people consult for advice and also for help , and that even though the masses did not actually express feelings towards him , various actions like the big boys mourning over his death represents his importance and that he has support from the masses, however little.
Piggy - he is dejected and also seen to be unfit as even part of the group of boys stranded on the island , let alone say a leader. His ideas never seem to gain any amount of popularity among the masses , and only once or twice Ralph follows Piggy's advice , reaching great success. He literally has no support and is in fact, hated by other boys on the island, and his death might be that Roger did not like him much.
Roger - he is simply a follower and a kind of media to show and influence Jack's plans and dictatorship. He gains support as he has Jack backing him up and also that no one questions his and Jack's decisions. ( As seen when the other savages did not attempt to resist him when he was trying to push the rock down to kill Piggy. )
The idea i am trying to express here is that while other factors and the physical and metaphysical attributes of the characters contribute to their role on the island , the need to draw power from the masses also forms an important platform for the characters in the novel. If with the majority's support, Jack was able to break free from Ralph's mini civilisation and cause the death of Simon and Piggy, what else cannot be done ? As the "Daniel" saying goes , power in numbers - as long as you have the majority's side with you , you will have immense control and power over the civilisation.
I didn't overdo it , did i? =(
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Don't you all think that masses' support for the few main characters is actually a very important factor in determining their outcome?
Ralph - he does have the masses' vote for leader as he looks matured and has a sense of leadership , but gradually loses his power over the boys as Jack usurps his "throne" , making him lose support from the other boys and lose his position as leader.
Jack - he gains the masses' attention and support as he focuses on the fun things the masses can do on the island - hunting , swimming , slacking and the like - , and also challenges Ralph's authority by forming a tribe on his own , and threatens other boys to join. However, Jack's "success" in the novel mainly depends on the masses' support. All his plans and activities like hunting and forming a new tribe needed a huge amount of support form the other boys , and if he did not have that kind of support , he would not have even the power to speak up to Ralph.
Simon - He is the person most people consult for advice and also for help , and that even though the masses did not actually express feelings towards him , various actions like the big boys mourning over his death represents his importance and that he has support from the masses, however little.
Piggy - he is dejected and also seen to be unfit as even part of the group of boys stranded on the island , let alone say a leader. His ideas never seem to gain any amount of popularity among the masses , and only once or twice Ralph follows Piggy's advice , reaching great success. He literally has no support and is in fact, hated by other boys on the island, and his death might be that Roger did not like him much.
Roger - he is simply a follower and a kind of media to show and influence Jack's plans and dictatorship. He gains support as he has Jack backing him up and also that no one questions his and Jack's decisions. ( As seen when the other savages did not attempt to resist him when he was trying to push the rock down to kill Piggy. )
The idea i am trying to express here is that while other factors and the physical and metaphysical attributes of the characters contribute to their role on the island , the need to draw power from the masses also forms an important platform for the characters in the novel. If with the majority's support, Jack was able to break free from Ralph's mini civilisation and cause the death of Simon and Piggy, what else cannot be done ? As the "Daniel" saying goes , power in numbers - as long as you have the majority's side with you , you will have immense control and power over the civilisation.
I didn't overdo it , did i? =(
-)B@CK~ST@B(-
f33l th3 p@1n .
t@st3 th3 1njust1c3.
Wr1th3 1n @g0ny.